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Any old timers who can help with an F-4G question?
Quote19.02.2012 14:370 people like thisLike
 

Hi everyone. Old 462 from the early 90's checking in. I am currently building a scale model of an F-4G from the 3rd AGS/90th AMU from my Clark AFB days, right up until Pinatubo blew it's top.

 

I am trying to make the model as realistic as possible, so the 462 in me says that the load-out has to be 100% valid. Unfortunately the neurons aren't working as well as they used to..

 

My first stab at it I was going to do:

Center fuel tank.

3 AIM-7's + 1 ECM pod (Front/Left) in the 4 belly launchers.

6 MK-82 slicks 3 ea on TER's on the inboard pylons.

2 AIM-9's.  1 ea on the outboard pylons <---- This is the one I am most weary of..

 

I really,really don't want to do outboard fuel tanks as they just block everything from the side, but I can't say as I remember ever loading AIM-9's on the outboards.  I know I could put rails on the inboard and do up to 4 9's there, but it looks "crowded" scaled down.

 

I do think I remember putting a launcher on the outboard pylon from time to time but I can't recall if that was for AIM-9's or maybe that was just for a single AGM-88?

 

Anyway, thanks in advance to anyone who hasn't completely fried all of their brain cells like me.

 

Lastly, if anyone has any photos from Clark during the Pinatubo era, or any recollections of specific tail numbers, I would greatly appreciate it.

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

 

The load toad formerly known as SRA Warren
Quote02.03.2012 07:070 people like thisLike
 

I've got 20 years experience on F4's and worked the G's from 82-88 and never saw a configuration you describe. Ours consisted of outboard and centerline fuel tanks, 4 AIM-7's and one each AGM-45 on the inboard pylons. On occasion the 45's were replaced with the AGM-78 or the AGM 88. While at George AFB the AGM-45 was the missile of choice but while at Spangdahlem, Ger. the AGM-88 was our primary load.

Quote02.03.2012 07:110 people like thisLike
 

I think all the Loadouts had 3 x AIM-7 + and ECM pod on the left forward.

 

Loadout #1

 

2 x AGM-88s on outboards (1 & 9) on LAU-118s.

 

left inboard (sta 2) had a special weapons adapter with a Lau-34 under it, an AGM-45 was loaded on the Lau-34.  There were 2x AIM-9s on Station 2 as well.

 

right inboard (sta 8) had a lau-34 with agm-45.

 

Loadout #2

 

4 x AGM-88s all hanging from LAU-118s (stations 1,2,8,9)

 

These were Clark AB 'Weasel' loadouts before Desert Shield/Storm.  Shrikes were abandoned during the first part of Desert Storm.

 

Tail Number 69-580 is one tail number I recall.  I might have a couple of tail numbers for you later.

 

Is this Jeremy Warren?

Quote02.03.2012 07:120 people like thisLike
 

JerWah, I have 8 years experience on the E model. The load out is pretty much the same as the G. You can mount a TER on the inboards. You can hang a LAU Rocket launcher on the bottom or a MK 82 and then hang the AIM 9's on the inboards. Then hang two MER's on the outboards and hang Mk-82's or 1 Mk 84. The outboards do not have the connections for Sidewinders. The AGM 88's would look good on the outboards too. That would cut down your clutter also. At MacDill AFB we used to hang Aerial Tow Target Darts on the left outboard. Goodluck hope I helped.

 

 

Quote02.03.2012 07:350 people like thisLike
 

I forgot about the CL tank!

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Thanks everyone.. I did wind up doing 88's outboard, and 9's inboard above the ters I'll post some pics as soon as I can. I actually found a PDF showing all the combinations online so I know the load "could" be carried even I it wasn't. Also God of Hellfire, that's me.... Who is this?
The load toad formerly known as SRA Warren
Quote24.04.2012 13:380 people like thisLike
 

While doing an ICT or two in the 563rd of the 37th TFW at George '84-86, we did 3 load configurations. One for PACAF, UnSAFE, and I don't recall….Mid-East? My brain cells are too challenged to remember their fancy code names, but I recall the European jobberdoo had the Mk-82s. The PACAF line had all missiles and went a lot faster. I think we did 3 AIM-7s, 2 AIM-9s, and either 2 AGM-45s or 88s, Chaff & Flares in something like 19 minutes. As the crew daddy, I sometimes needed help from the #2 booger hooker to slide the HARM because I was pooped and they were heavy sumbeeches. My #2 man had the brilliant idea of staggering the loading of the 7s, i.e. he would sway, install canards, and cart the 7s while the #3 man and I did the inboards and then came back with another 7 when the #2 man was ready. Knocked off gobs of time. We almost broke our own Base record of 22 minutes for the USAFE load but in the 21st minute, on the sixth and final 82, it slid off the steel rollers and dipped down into the heel of the jammer's boom when the #3 man slammed it from reverse off the trailer into FWD. Oops! Mangled the 904 fuse and disqualified us for the first time. I never liked to compromise speed over safety, but our bomb dump pukes sprayed Mop 'n Glo all over the heavies to pretty them up for the competition, thus making them 'slick(er)'. Soon after came an addendum to the 33-1-2 mandating the use of a tie-down strap when using metal rollers. Sorry guys, that was us.

 

Oscar